South West Trains to restore normal service from tomorrow

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South West Trains has advised passengers that it plans to restore its normal weekday timetable tomorrow.

All lines will reopen with trains calling at all stations, although some services may be subject to alteration and formed of fewer coaches than normal.

Test trains will run over lines which have been closed over the last few days due to icy weather conditions. With freezing temperatures expected to continue in parts of the UK over the next 48 hours, services will continue to be reviewed according to the developing conditions.

Passengers are advised to check for updates before they travel and allow extra time to get to and from stations.

Tim Shoveller, South West Trains Network Rail Alliance Managing Director, said: "Severe weather affects all forms of transport and access to our network also depends on road conditions which affect the travel of our passengers and our staff.

"The past few days have been challenging. I appreciate our passengers have faced longer and less comfortable door to door journeys than normal and I would like to thank them for their continued patience and understanding.

"The revised timetables we put in place have worked effectively and helped significantly to minimise the disruption. Our train and station staff, customer service teams and the engineers responsible for track and signalling have all worked tirelessly, often in freezing conditions, to keep the network open.

"Tomorrow, we will be restoring our normal weekday timetable, however we would still advise passengers to check the situation before they travel in view of the current weather situation. We will continue to monitor the conditions and provide passengers with the most up-to-date information to allow them to plan ahead."

For South West trains updates visit www.southwesttrains.co.uk or follow South West Trains Twitter account @SW_Trains.

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8:50am Tue 22 Jan 13

DingDong69 says...

Absolute shambles, i should not have expected anything less. Bastards @ SWT Trains have had a nice long weekend. Bout time they gritted the station car park, and the season ticket is up again, **** take
Absolute shambles, i should not have expected anything less. Bastards @ SWT Trains have had a nice long weekend. Bout time they gritted the station car park, and the season ticket is up again, **** take DingDong69

9:37am Tue 22 Jan 13

Tobermory says...

I just don't get why they stopped in the first place we only had a few inches of snow and the rails are higher than ground level anyway? Surely a vehicle running on rails is far safer than a vehicle on the road in the snow. If Tfl can keep buses running even through the night why can't these idiots at SWT keep a few trains running on the lines they closed?
I just don't get why they stopped in the first place we only had a few inches of snow and the rails are higher than ground level anyway? Surely a vehicle running on rails is far safer than a vehicle on the road in the snow. If Tfl can keep buses running even through the night why can't these idiots at SWT keep a few trains running on the lines they closed? Tobermory

9:40am Tue 22 Jan 13

321200 says...

It's not about the depth of the snow, it's the effects on the conductor rail that provides power to the trains.

Ice is not conductive.
It's not about the depth of the snow, it's the effects on the conductor rail that provides power to the trains. Ice is not conductive. 321200

2:55pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Prince Philip of Greece says...

Surely ice is conducive to slipping?
Surely ice is conducive to slipping? Prince Philip of Greece

3:34pm Tue 22 Jan 13

321200 says...

Not with regards to trains, not a great deal anyway. train wheels completely crush it. Minimal if any slipping.
Not with regards to trains, not a great deal anyway. train wheels completely crush it. Minimal if any slipping. 321200

4:50pm Tue 22 Jan 13

DB says...

I think that the most disgraceful thing about SWT's service over the past few days is that a lot of the trains that they did deem it possible to run were reduced from 12 to 8 coaches even though a fraction of the usual services were going out - what happened to the rest of the coaches?

Last night, the guard actually announced that the train was full to capacity and no more people could get on. I have never heard them say that before how ever busy they have got.

Overall, I think that the idea of running a severe weather service is a good one in that all of the advertised service ran on time.

However, I think SWT set themselves too easy a target this time and cut the services far too severely, especially given how over-crowded their standard services are.

This morning it was back to the usual service - more trains scheduled, but all of them either delayed or cancelled. At least with the severe weather timetable people knew not to bother turning up to an SWT station at rush hour!
I think that the most disgraceful thing about SWT's service over the past few days is that a lot of the trains that they did deem it possible to run were reduced from 12 to 8 coaches even though a fraction of the usual services were going out - what happened to the rest of the coaches? Last night, the guard actually announced that the train was full to capacity and no more people could get on. I have never heard them say that before how ever busy they have got. Overall, I think that the idea of running a severe weather service is a good one in that all of the advertised service ran on time. However, I think SWT set themselves too easy a target this time and cut the services far too severely, especially given how over-crowded their standard services are. This morning it was back to the usual service - more trains scheduled, but all of them either delayed or cancelled. At least with the severe weather timetable people knew not to bother turning up to an SWT station at rush hour! DB

10:32pm Tue 22 Jan 13

321200 says...

DB I don't know where you got this info about reduced train lengths... Most trains run at full lengths (12/10/8 depending on route)
DB I don't know where you got this info about reduced train lengths... Most trains run at full lengths (12/10/8 depending on route) 321200

9:03am Wed 23 Jan 13

DingDong69 says...

SWT set a very low bar during the "big freeze" no doubt to satisfy some mangerial targets, suffice to say they failed, i am extremely unahhpy given this route must be the most expensive per mile in the wordl!!
SWT set a very low bar during the "big freeze" no doubt to satisfy some mangerial targets, suffice to say they failed, i am extremely unahhpy given this route must be the most expensive per mile in the wordl!! DingDong69

10:39am Wed 23 Jan 13

DB says...

321200 wrote:
DB I don't know where you got this info about reduced train lengths... Most trains run at full lengths (12/10/8 depending on route)
Erm, I got it from the driver who announced on the tannoy that he would like to apologise for the overcrowding which was due to the train only having 8 coaches instead of the normal 12! Apparently, there was some type of fault, I can't remember what exactly as I only really recall the excuses these days when they are really ridiculous.

The other thing which annoys me about the formation of the trains is that every train that leaves Surbiton after 8.30 is formed of 8 coaches instead of 12. SWT seem to think that the rush hour finishes at 8.30, but they seem to charge peak fares a full hour later.

It is the same on the weekends, when a lot of the trains routinely run 4 coaches and are often too packed to get on. There is no excuse to ever run a 4 coach train out of Surbiton as there are always enough people waiting there to fill an 8 coach one.
[quote][p][bold]321200[/bold] wrote: DB I don't know where you got this info about reduced train lengths... Most trains run at full lengths (12/10/8 depending on route)[/p][/quote]Erm, I got it from the driver who announced on the tannoy that he would like to apologise for the overcrowding which was due to the train only having 8 coaches instead of the normal 12! Apparently, there was some type of fault, I can't remember what exactly as I only really recall the excuses these days when they are really ridiculous. The other thing which annoys me about the formation of the trains is that every train that leaves Surbiton after 8.30 is formed of 8 coaches instead of 12. SWT seem to think that the rush hour finishes at 8.30, but they seem to charge peak fares a full hour later. It is the same on the weekends, when a lot of the trains routinely run 4 coaches and are often too packed to get on. There is no excuse to ever run a 4 coach train out of Surbiton as there are always enough people waiting there to fill an 8 coach one. DB

10:42am Wed 23 Jan 13

DB says...

DingDong69 wrote:
SWT set a very low bar during the "big freeze" no doubt to satisfy some mangerial targets, suffice to say they failed, i am extremely unahhpy given this route must be the most expensive per mile in the wordl!!
Well put.

SWT's 'normal' service is not nearly enough to satisfy demand, so I cannot work out how they thought it would be acceptable to cut it back so drastically.

I dread to think what will happen if we have a real big freeze.
[quote][p][bold]DingDong69[/bold] wrote: SWT set a very low bar during the "big freeze" no doubt to satisfy some mangerial targets, suffice to say they failed, i am extremely unahhpy given this route must be the most expensive per mile in the wordl!![/p][/quote]Well put. SWT's 'normal' service is not nearly enough to satisfy demand, so I cannot work out how they thought it would be acceptable to cut it back so drastically. I dread to think what will happen if we have a real big freeze. DB

10:42am Wed 23 Jan 13

321200 says...

DingDong69 wrote:
SWT set a very low bar during the "big freeze" no doubt to satisfy some mangerial targets, suffice to say they failed, i am extremely unahhpy given this route must be the most expensive per mile in the wordl!!
actually, the service ran by SWT was more than what would usually run during this adverse weather. Any more trains on the network would have caused bigger problems.

Again, damned if they do, damned if they dont. very frustrating
[quote][p][bold]DingDong69[/bold] wrote: SWT set a very low bar during the "big freeze" no doubt to satisfy some mangerial targets, suffice to say they failed, i am extremely unahhpy given this route must be the most expensive per mile in the wordl!![/p][/quote]actually, the service ran by SWT was more than what would usually run during this adverse weather. Any more trains on the network would have caused bigger problems. Again, damned if they do, damned if they dont. very frustrating 321200

5:34pm Wed 23 Jan 13

DingDong69 says...

we are all **** then
we are all **** then DingDong69

10:15am Thu 24 Jan 13

DB says...

DingDong69 wrote:
we are all **** then
Absolutely. If we can't run more than the most skeletal of skeleton services when we have 10cm of snow, what on earth would happen if we had more?

As I said before, I appreciate SWT's efforts to actually design and run a service that works in the adverse conditions, but it was just so woefully short of demand that it should have come with a warning to only travel if absolutely necessary. Instead, SWT seem to be patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

The problem is that SWT cannot really afford to admit just how short their current service is of current requirements because there is no real solution to it apart from massive investment.
[quote][p][bold]DingDong69[/bold] wrote: we are all **** then[/p][/quote]Absolutely. If we can't run more than the most skeletal of skeleton services when we have 10cm of snow, what on earth would happen if we had more? As I said before, I appreciate SWT's efforts to actually design and run a service that works in the adverse conditions, but it was just so woefully short of demand that it should have come with a warning to only travel if absolutely necessary. Instead, SWT seem to be patting themselves on the back for a job well done. The problem is that SWT cannot really afford to admit just how short their current service is of current requirements because there is no real solution to it apart from massive investment. DB

10:33am Thu 24 Jan 13

DB says...

The other thing that I am unable to work out is why the trains through Surbiton seem to have got much busier since about October last year. I was hoping it would calm down after Christmas, but it is just as bad.

Before this time, it always used to be the departures pre 8.25 that either had limited standing room or were impossible to get on at all.

The 8.38 was easy standing room and the ones after that might even have a seat free.

Now, not everyone can physically fit on the 8.38, and we are back to uncomfortable standing room on the next couple of trains.

It is only after 9am that there is comfortable standing room now. (Although better not mention that to SWT otherwise they will reduce the length from 8 to 4 coaches on these services!)
The other thing that I am unable to work out is why the trains through Surbiton seem to have got much busier since about October last year. I was hoping it would calm down after Christmas, but it is just as bad. Before this time, it always used to be the departures pre 8.25 that either had limited standing room or were impossible to get on at all. The 8.38 was easy standing room and the ones after that might even have a seat free. Now, not everyone can physically fit on the 8.38, and we are back to uncomfortable standing room on the next couple of trains. It is only after 9am that there is comfortable standing room now. (Although better not mention that to SWT otherwise they will reduce the length from 8 to 4 coaches on these services!) DB

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