More countdown clocks to appear at road crossings, announces TfL

Wandsworth Guardian: The countdown timer at the diagonal crossing in Balham The countdown timer at the diagonal crossing in Balham

More pedestrian crossings will get "how-long-have-I-got?" countdown signs as part of a new safety action plan for London's roads.

The pedestrian countdowns will be extended to include around 10 per cent of the capital's crossings, Transport for London (TfL) said.

The countdown timers have been installed in Balham and Wimbledon town centres when diagonal crossings were built since 2010.

The plan also includes trials of innovative collision detection software on London buses this summer.

The trials will build on research previously carried out by TfL on detection equipment and will look to test the effectiveness of radar and optical technology for reducing collisions with cyclists and pedestrians.

There could also be trials on the use of intelligent speed adaptation technology on buses to promote adherence to speed limits.

TfL has also launched an updated "digital speed limit' map to provide drivers with the best information on the speed limit of the roads they are travelling on TfL and London Mayor Boris Johnson are aiming to reduce by 40% the number of people killed or seriously injured on the capital's roads by 2020.

Mr Johnson said the plan, involving 31 key actions, "enshrines the raft of actions that are being taken to improve pedestrian safety in the capital".

Where would you like to see a countdown timer installed? Leave your thoughts below or email ooakes@london.newsquest.co.uk.

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3:20pm Fri 11 Jul 14

ArfurTowcrate says...

This isn't about road safety. It's about telling pedestrians to hurry up. It's disgusting.
This isn't about road safety. It's about telling pedestrians to hurry up. It's disgusting. ArfurTowcrate
  • Score: -13

6:09pm Fri 11 Jul 14

StickyBob says...

I don't think you understand the system Arfur, the timer is to tell the pedestrian how many seconds they have before the traffic will stop, not go.
The effect is that pedestrians will wait that few seconds rather than to risk darting across.
It works.
I don't think you understand the system Arfur, the timer is to tell the pedestrian how many seconds they have before the traffic will stop, not go. The effect is that pedestrians will wait that few seconds rather than to risk darting across. It works. StickyBob
  • Score: 4

6:42pm Fri 11 Jul 14

MotherOf One says...

StickyBob wrote:
I don't think you understand the system Arfur, the timer is to tell the pedestrian how many seconds they have before the traffic will stop, not go.
The effect is that pedestrians will wait that few seconds rather than to risk darting across.
It works.
StickyBob, if the system mentioned is as recently installed in Cheam Village, then Arfur has correctly understood. The counter begins when the traffic lights are on red and then counts down to when the traffic lights change to green.
[quote][p][bold]StickyBob[/bold] wrote: I don't think you understand the system Arfur, the timer is to tell the pedestrian how many seconds they have before the traffic will stop, not go. The effect is that pedestrians will wait that few seconds rather than to risk darting across. It works.[/p][/quote]StickyBob, if the system mentioned is as recently installed in Cheam Village, then Arfur has correctly understood. The counter begins when the traffic lights are on red and then counts down to when the traffic lights change to green. MotherOf One
  • Score: 4

7:24pm Fri 11 Jul 14

tjames says...

more bs so they can waste our money
more bs so they can waste our money tjames
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Sutton53 says...

StickyBob wrote:
I don't think you understand the system Arfur, the timer is to tell the pedestrian how many seconds they have before the traffic will stop, not go.
The effect is that pedestrians will wait that few seconds rather than to risk darting across.
It works.
I can only presume you have never seen one of these crossings. The 'countdown' indicates how many seconds the pedestrian has to cross. It counts down to 1 before the signal changes to red for pedestrians.
[quote][p][bold]StickyBob[/bold] wrote: I don't think you understand the system Arfur, the timer is to tell the pedestrian how many seconds they have before the traffic will stop, not go. The effect is that pedestrians will wait that few seconds rather than to risk darting across. It works.[/p][/quote]I can only presume you have never seen one of these crossings. The 'countdown' indicates how many seconds the pedestrian has to cross. It counts down to 1 before the signal changes to red for pedestrians. Sutton53
  • Score: 7

9:51pm Fri 11 Jul 14

StickyBob says...

All new pedestrian crossings in America have to have timers which show how many seconds that the Don't Walk/Red Hand will display.
Some of these are already installed and working in central London.
All new pedestrian crossings in America have to have timers which show how many seconds that the Don't Walk/Red Hand will display. Some of these are already installed and working in central London. StickyBob
  • Score: 3

1:00pm Sat 12 Jul 14

pluton says...

What would be useful as a pedestrian would be knowing how long I am going to have to wait. There are 2 crossings of Hampton Rd, Teddington. One of which gives the green man almost immediately and the other keeps pedestrians waiting for about a minute even if it hasn't recently been operated.
What would be useful as a pedestrian would be knowing how long I am going to have to wait. There are 2 crossings of Hampton Rd, Teddington. One of which gives the green man almost immediately and the other keeps pedestrians waiting for about a minute even if it hasn't recently been operated. pluton
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Sat 12 Jul 14

alroutemaster says...

For once I agree with Arfur. And they are a waste of money, as I believe that on an old fashioned zebra crossing the law states the motorist has to wait until the pedestrian has crossed before proceeding. In other words you have as long as it takes. Sail before steam! As for sensors on buses, that too is a waste of money as it would be simpler and cheaper to make it an offence for a cyclist to ever be on the inside of a stationary bus.
For once I agree with Arfur. And they are a waste of money, as I believe that on an old fashioned zebra crossing the law states the motorist has to wait until the pedestrian has crossed before proceeding. In other words you have as long as it takes. Sail before steam! As for sensors on buses, that too is a waste of money as it would be simpler and cheaper to make it an offence for a cyclist to ever be on the inside of a stationary bus. alroutemaster
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Monstermunch17 says...

pluton wrote:
What would be useful as a pedestrian would be knowing how long I am going to have to wait. There are 2 crossings of Hampton Rd, Teddington. One of which gives the green man almost immediately and the other keeps pedestrians waiting for about a minute even if it hasn't recently been operated.
You already know?
[quote][p][bold]pluton[/bold] wrote: What would be useful as a pedestrian would be knowing how long I am going to have to wait. There are 2 crossings of Hampton Rd, Teddington. One of which gives the green man almost immediately and the other keeps pedestrians waiting for about a minute even if it hasn't recently been operated.[/p][/quote]You already know? Monstermunch17
  • Score: 0

8:18pm Sat 12 Jul 14

motomoto says...

From a driver's point of view i think that the timed crossing are a good idea
as they may potentially stop people from dashing across the road just as
the traffic lights turn green, however this won't be applicable to people
who insist on staring at their phones, ipods and ipads whilst crossing
the road and also the people who have permanently installed ear phones
who are cut off from the rest of normal society !
From a driver's point of view i think that the timed crossing are a good idea as they may potentially stop people from dashing across the road just as the traffic lights turn green, however this won't be applicable to people who insist on staring at their phones, ipods and ipads whilst crossing the road and also the people who have permanently installed ear phones who are cut off from the rest of normal society ! motomoto
  • Score: 2

6:30am Sun 13 Jul 14

tjames says...

orders from brussels
orders from brussels tjames
  • Score: -3

3:13pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Michael Pantlin says...

pluton wrote:
What would be useful as a pedestrian would be knowing how long I am going to have to wait. There are 2 crossings of Hampton Rd, Teddington. One of which gives the green man almost immediately and the other keeps pedestrians waiting for about a minute even if it hasn't recently been operated.
There always seems an interminable wait for the pelican crossing to give the green light to pedestrians by Melvyn Clarke's at Wrythe Green which can cause, frustration, impatience and risk taking.
[quote][p][bold]pluton[/bold] wrote: What would be useful as a pedestrian would be knowing how long I am going to have to wait. There are 2 crossings of Hampton Rd, Teddington. One of which gives the green man almost immediately and the other keeps pedestrians waiting for about a minute even if it hasn't recently been operated.[/p][/quote]There always seems an interminable wait for the pelican crossing to give the green light to pedestrians by Melvyn Clarke's at Wrythe Green which can cause, frustration, impatience and risk taking. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 0

11:01am Mon 14 Jul 14

patand says...

Please put a timed diagonal crossing in at Tooting Bec.
Please put a timed diagonal crossing in at Tooting Bec. patand
  • Score: 1

12:45pm Mon 14 Jul 14

PeterM says...

As a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist I find these extremely useful and wish that all traffic lights had them.
As a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist I find these extremely useful and wish that all traffic lights had them. PeterM
  • Score: 7

8:59pm Mon 14 Jul 14

metis says...

alroutemaster wrote:
For once I agree with Arfur. And they are a waste of money, as I believe that on an old fashioned zebra crossing the law states the motorist has to wait until the pedestrian has crossed before proceeding. In other words you have as long as it takes. Sail before steam! As for sensors on buses, that too is a waste of money as it would be simpler and cheaper to make it an offence for a cyclist to ever be on the inside of a stationary bus.
Absolutely right alroutemaster. These new crossings are just a way to regiment the pedestrian who should be allowed enough time as needed and shouldn't be dictated by an arbitrary timer.
[quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote: For once I agree with Arfur. And they are a waste of money, as I believe that on an old fashioned zebra crossing the law states the motorist has to wait until the pedestrian has crossed before proceeding. In other words you have as long as it takes. Sail before steam! As for sensors on buses, that too is a waste of money as it would be simpler and cheaper to make it an offence for a cyclist to ever be on the inside of a stationary bus.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right alroutemaster. These new crossings are just a way to regiment the pedestrian who should be allowed enough time as needed and shouldn't be dictated by an arbitrary timer. metis
  • Score: -2

7:20pm Wed 16 Jul 14

motomoto says...

metis wrote:
alroutemaster wrote:
For once I agree with Arfur. And they are a waste of money, as I believe that on an old fashioned zebra crossing the law states the motorist has to wait until the pedestrian has crossed before proceeding. In other words you have as long as it takes. Sail before steam! As for sensors on buses, that too is a waste of money as it would be simpler and cheaper to make it an offence for a cyclist to ever be on the inside of a stationary bus.
Absolutely right alroutemaster. These new crossings are just a way to regiment the pedestrian who should be allowed enough time as needed and shouldn't be dictated by an arbitrary timer.
@metis.......That's ok......take as long as you want to cross the road.....
don't worry about holding anyone else up after all "IT IS ONLY YOU TO
BE CONSIDERED !"
[quote][p][bold]metis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alroutemaster[/bold] wrote: For once I agree with Arfur. And they are a waste of money, as I believe that on an old fashioned zebra crossing the law states the motorist has to wait until the pedestrian has crossed before proceeding. In other words you have as long as it takes. Sail before steam! As for sensors on buses, that too is a waste of money as it would be simpler and cheaper to make it an offence for a cyclist to ever be on the inside of a stationary bus.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right alroutemaster. These new crossings are just a way to regiment the pedestrian who should be allowed enough time as needed and shouldn't be dictated by an arbitrary timer.[/p][/quote]@metis.......That's ok......take as long as you want to cross the road..... don't worry about holding anyone else up after all "IT IS ONLY YOU TO BE CONSIDERED !" motomoto
  • Score: 0

7:31pm Wed 16 Jul 14

PeterM says...

patand wrote:
Please put a timed diagonal crossing in at Tooting Bec.
I came through there tonight (16th July) and there is a timed crossing at Tooting Bec.
[quote][p][bold]patand[/bold] wrote: Please put a timed diagonal crossing in at Tooting Bec.[/p][/quote]I came through there tonight (16th July) and there is a timed crossing at Tooting Bec. PeterM
  • Score: -1

6:43am Fri 18 Jul 14

Lanterne says...

This is nothing whatsoever to do with safety. This is just another manifestation of TFL's rabid obsession with 'smoothing traffic flow' and prioritising motor vehicles above all other road users.
This is nothing whatsoever to do with safety. This is just another manifestation of TFL's rabid obsession with 'smoothing traffic flow' and prioritising motor vehicles above all other road users. Lanterne
  • Score: 1
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